NCAC 2018

Re: NCAC 2018

New postby Stonegate on Thu May 17, 2018 10:45 am

Didn't'see the game. But stats looked pretty close. Face offs were in the Bishops favor. Which at the beginning of the year was not a strength. Seems that the Bishops need to bottle some of the Denison fervor for the NCAAs. After the Red game seemed the attack was off for three quarters. Interesting some thought refs were over zealous. Penalties were reasonable in number ... Four or so for each team. Next year will be promising for OWU. Can we get a post grad year for Rigger. Overall, glad to see Coach j moving forward. Plantholt and staff have done a wonderful job. Overall it was a very good year to be a Bishop. From Unranked to elite eight. :dance: Shippy time to park the bus. Hmmm could we be seeing an RIT vs Gulls NC. Seems a good probability. ... But ... Here's hoping Hank gets his over due NC. :think:
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Re: NCAC 2018

New postby FannOLax on Thu May 17, 2018 11:08 am

Yes, "unranked to elite eight" sums it up, even though the elite eight is a bit shy of where the OWU program has been in the past. Ben Rigger was indeed very good this season, as were his fellow seniors Aaron Carroll (terrific senior year), Luke Leyden (just a tremendous middie all four years of his OWU career) and that dynamic duo of SSDMs Trent Schulte and Peter Hamblett. Kudos also to OWU seniors Justin Smith and Bradford Marcotte. There should be lots of talent returning next year, and at least one good high school FOGO slated to play for OWU next season. Well done Mike Plantholt, and let's see if OWU can go further than the quarterfinals in the coming years.
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Re: NCAC 2018

New postby oldtimelax on Thu May 17, 2018 11:22 am

Was at the game....weather not a big factor, light drizzle created wet sticks and some high passes and shots. Refs were a not a factor. Gettysburg was the better team.

I thought Rigger and OWU's defense played pretty well, especially in the first half. Offense had their problems and they didn't make adjustments like they did vs. Denison on Saturday. Gettysburg defense packed the crease and cut-off inside shots for the most part. OWU had a couple of pipes and made a nice run in the fourth quarter to make it 7-5. Dumb penalty by crease attack sealed the deal. He was hit high and had a case, but he lost his cool.

Last Bullet goal was on an empty net during a futile 10-man ride with a minute left.

OWU had a great season. They were unranked and made it to the Final 8. They have their entire attack returning and two/thirds of their top middie line. They lose a great goalie, two All-America caliber DSSM and three other all-league d-men so their will be holes to fill there.
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Re: NCAC 2018

New postby nosy ned on Thu May 17, 2018 1:30 pm

The season is over for the NCAC and all that's left is national recognition... to earn AA recognition out of the NCAC is quite the accomplishment... so let's hope the committee gets it right.

So it's not too early to think about next year......

The Big Red were actually young this year. There were only 5 seniors on this squad. However those 5 players were key ... as 4 of them were BIG contributors on the defensive side of the field. Three were all conference and the 4th (#3) IMHO should have been as well. He was sorely missed in the NCAA game against OWU. The good news is the entire attack and 1st offensive middie line returns ... in fact 94% of the points scored this year returns. As does the FOGO and all the goalies are as well... the youngest one being the one that seemed to have solidified the starting roll by years end.

So Coach Caravana has lots to work with next year and i expect Denison will be battling toe to toe with the Bishops again next year (pun intended). Here's hoping they both keep the quality of the OOC high again next year and continue to grow mid west lacrosse in the process.
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Re: NCAC 2018

New postby laxinri on Thu May 17, 2018 1:49 pm

goalies are as well... the youngest one being the one that seemed to have solidified the starting roll by years end.
Denison has not seen a save % above .5 in a few years. I think there is an incoming freshman next year. It will be interesting to see if all 4 continue playing next year. Tough to be the #4 as a junior.
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Re: NCAC 2018

New postby FannOLax on Thu May 17, 2018 2:06 pm

nosy ned wrote:The season is over for the NCAC and all that's left is national recognition... to earn AA recognition out of the NCAC is quite the accomplishment... so let's hope the committee gets it right.


Agreed, "quite the accomplishment," with the NCAC being away from the spotlight. A number of NCAC players are deserving, but, well, we shall see. A very real accomplishment for the conference in 2018 was both Denison and OWU making the NCAA tourney, the first time this has happened since the NCAC got the AQ in 2013. Nice that both schools got tourney wins before being matched against each other. Both OWU and Denison graduate some very good seniors, but both also should return lots of top talent, especially at the attacking end of the field.
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Re: NCAC 2018

New postby NCAC2010 on Sun May 20, 2018 7:06 pm

Next year is Big Red year finals in Philly. Not getting to many chances left to see that. A lot of players back, finally found a g keep since Baruch. And Salisbury loses the D. Plus young d subs played well this year.
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Re: NCAC 2018

New postby HHS '64 on Mon May 21, 2018 7:09 am

First, I want to congratulate Ohio Wesleyan's team (student-athletes, coaches,and staff alike) for:
- a great season, one in which they and their fans can take enduring and justifiable pride
- a deep run in the Division III Tournament, and (of course)
- two victories over our respected rivals from Granville

I thought our Bishops played well against Gettysburg, however, the better team won. This does not detract from OWU's seasonal or game performance; rather, it is an acknowledgment that sometimes expressed carping concerning the officiating (etc.) would not have altered the outcome.
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Re: NCAC 2018

New postby oldtimelax on Fri May 25, 2018 12:36 pm

Congrats to our new Ohio Wesleyan Bishop All-Americans...Pete Hamblett, Luke Leyden, Steven Hildebrand, Max Tennant, Aaron Carroll, Trent Schulte and Ben Rigger...Pete made the first team and was voted the Outstanding Specialty Player Award (Short-Stick)...

http://www.usila.org/news/2018/5/25/D3_ ... icans.aspx
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Re: NCAC 2018

New postby nosy ned on Fri May 25, 2018 3:24 pm

Likewise congratulations to the Denison players honored as AA (6). Especially to Pittroff and Duhoski being named to the 2nd team. And also to Waxter, Burman, George and DeCamp as HM!

We knew watching the OWU v Denison games this year that we were being treated to some of the best that D3 had to offer .... having 13 players from those 2 teams named AAs just reinforces that "eye test" we were treated to! IMHO should have been 1 or 2 more named as well. Shame some went unrecognized. But I digress .....

Congratulations to all NCAC All Americans. Great job!
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Re: NCAC 2018

New postby LaxNews on Mon May 28, 2018 10:07 am

FannOLax wrote:
Stonegate wrote:Really bad teams ... Probably so... But saw where 4yr program Coast Guard beat no 2 Wesleyan in OT. Interesting yr so far. Never give up hope. Bishops have Alma tonight then onto ranked Cabrini. Who once was one of those teams.


Saw that Wesleyan (CT) result; yes, Wesleyan's conference, the NESCAC, is good in that the vast majority of the schools have good, competitive lacrosse teams... BUT, since Daly left Tufts to take the Brown job, I don't think the top NESCAC teams are now nearly as good as, say, Tufts in 2014 and 2015 (or Salisbury in 2017, etc., etc.). I firmly expect Denison to beat both Amherst and Middlebury this season. Methinks OWU opened its season against the best team in the North, RIT.


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Re: NCAC 2018

New postby FannOLax on Mon May 28, 2018 11:15 am

FYI, this was posted on the ODAC thread:

Nothinbutthelax wrote:Can’t find stats. Last years highlights only..
I caught game mid. 3rd. MCGuire tied game at 12 before quarter ended.
MCGuire, Strucker and HSC Hunter Brown ran on same line. Looked like Hunter assisted Strucker on a great low to high that stung top left corner mid. 4th.
Under minute left in game Strucker behind running out clock get doubled but able to dump to McGuire who finished games off 16-12.
OWoo goalie Rigger won the game for south, incredible multiple point blank opportunities stuffed..


Nice to see that Ben Rigger represented the NCAC well in the North-South game (a further post said that the final score was actually 17-12). I haven't heard anything about how other OWU and Denison players might have done, but it's nice to hear from an ODAC fan that Rigger ended his career on a high note.
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Re: NCAC 2018

New postby cheeseandcrackers on Wed May 30, 2018 12:41 pm

NCAC players represented well in the North-South game. The Wooster midfielder (Kuhn) had a goal. Most of the other players are defenders, so not a lot to report in the way of stats. The South outscored the North 9-3 in the second half with Ben Rigger (OWU) in the cage. There was at least one North possession where 6 of the 7 defenders were from the NCAC - Rigger, Carroll (OWU), Duhoski (DU), Burman (DU), Smith (LSM/OWU), and Hamblett (SSDM/OWU). Aaron Carroll was his usual "Hoover" self on the GBs and Justin Smith went better than 50% at the X. The Denison and OWU players gathered for a group picture at the end; demonstrating their respect for each other and the game.
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Re: NCAC 2018

New postby nosy ned on Thu May 31, 2018 4:53 pm

Nice to hear the DU and OWU seniors posed for a post game picture! The respect it showed for each other was well earned! These boys faced each other 9 times in total over their 4 years (DU went 5-4) and 5 of those were in a playoff matchup. Three of those 5 games were 1 goal games. This is without doubt one of best rivalries in D3 lacrosse and it looks to me at this very early stage that 2019 could be a another set of encounters we fans have the pleasure of witnessing! Well done gentlemen!
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Re: NCAC 2018

New postby beantown78 on Thu May 31, 2018 5:39 pm

I don't post often however I do read many of the posts. Why does this board always praise Denison and OWU players and very seldom want to give other very good conference players in the NCAC any credit? I can tell you first hand, it is a lot easier playing and producing on a team of greater depth and experience like Denison/OWU then it is to produce on a team like many of the other developing programs which have equal to better academic standards.

The constant evangelism of Denison/OWU versus the rest of the NCAC is never going to help build up the conference with better players, especially for programs like Witt, Woo, Kenyon, Oberlin and Depauw... all of them trying to recruit from the same programs across the country so they can compete.

BY the way, at the North South game, Wooster had 2 players on the North roster. First time ever. Kuhn had 3 goals not 1, even though his playing time was marginalized by the North coaching staff showed well for the NCAC. Show me better stats from any player from Denison or OWU.



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Re: NCAC 2018

New postby FannOLax on Thu May 31, 2018 6:45 pm

Terrific to hear that Kuhn did so well representing Wooster and the NCAC... although it looks like he was probably playing for the South: http://www.usila.org/news/2018/5/22/2018ASPR.aspx
Here's hoping that folks knowledgeable about Witt, Wooster, DePauw, Kenyon et al will be posting to the board (in 2017, there were plenty of Witt-specific comments, but those seem unfortunately to have dried up). As for the question about Denison and OWU, most of the people who post about these schools have ties to them, whether as alumni, parents of players at those schools, and/or having lived in Granville, OH or Delaware, OH.
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Re: NCAC 2018

New postby nosy ned on Thu May 31, 2018 9:34 pm

beantown78 wrote:I don't post often however I do read many of the posts. Why does this board always praise Denison and OWU players and very seldom want to give other very good conference players in the NCAC any credit?


Bean, “if you’re not part of the solution.....”. If you have an opinion about a player or team by all means post it! It’s not DU or OWU supporters responsibility to scout the conference and highlight outstanding play so you feel represented!

You remind me of a dad that complained to a rec coach (who was also a dad) about his sons playing time.... the coach had the best response. He told the guy to go down to rec dept on Monday and volunteer to be a coach and then he can play his kid all he wants. If you don’t like this threads treatment of Wooster, start posting and bring some attention to what you think is noteworthy.
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Re: NCAC 2018

New postby FannOLax on Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:39 pm

As reported on the Coaching Changes thread, it looks like Allegheny has picked a pretty strong first head coach.
http://alleghenygators.com/news/2018/6/ ... coach.aspx
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Re: NCAC 2018

New postby HHS '64 on Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:40 pm

beantown78 wrote:I don't post often however I do read many of the posts. Why does this board always praise Denison and OWU players and very seldom want to give other very good conference players in the NCAC any credit? I can tell you first hand, it is a lot easier playing and producing on a team of greater depth and experience like Denison/OWU then it is to produce on a team like many of the other developing programs which have equal to better academic standards.

The constant evangelism of Denison/OWU versus the rest of the NCAC is never going to help build up the conference with better players, especially for programs like Witt, Woo, Kenyon, Oberlin and Depauw... all of them trying to recruit from the same programs across the country so they can compete.

BY the way, at the North South game, Wooster had 2 players on the North roster. First time ever. Kuhn had 3 goals not 1, even though his playing time was marginalized by the North coaching staff showed well for the NCAC. Show me better stats from any player from Denison or OWU.



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Boohoo! Every LaxPower participant has the identical — and the essentially unlimited — opportunity to post (civilly and accurately, of course) information and opinions. That you believe Wooster (and other NCAC colleges and universities) may be under-represented — and/or under-appreciated — on LaxPower’s annual NCAC threads is hardly the fault of the alumni/fans of other NCAC institutions. Rather, it is self evident that this problem resides with Wooster partisans. I note that you have authored only four LaxPower posts; perhaps a little introspection would be appropriate.
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Re: NCAC 2018

New postby MrLax2U on Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:45 pm

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I'm a Salisbury fan but enjoy reading and occasionally posting on the NCAC thread. The posters are a good group and pretty prolific I might add. I follow DU (Caravana fan) and the Battlin Bishops. Coach Berkman from Salisbury is in print that the OWU game always gives him an indication where the Gulls stand and Coach Caravana has given us some anxious moments in the last several years; and thrilling games to boot.
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