Lacrosse Magazine Preseason Rankings for 2010

Lacrosse Magazine Preseason Rankings for 2010

New postby DakotaDan on Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:29 pm

Lacrosse Magazine (LaxMagazine.com) has issued its pre-season rankings for college lacrosse. Duke, Syracuse, and Virginia top the Men's Division I list, while Northwestern, Maryland, and North Carolina take the top three spots in Women's Division I.

NCAA Division I Men
1. Duke
2. Syracuse
3. Virginia
4. North Carolina
5. Johns Hopkins
6. Cornell
7. Princeton
8. Maryland
9. Hofstra
10. Notre Dame
11. Harvard
12. UMBC
13. Navy
14. Georgetown
15. Brown
16. Loyola
17. Massachusetts
18. Stony Brook
19. Denver
20. Bucknell
Preseason Player of the Year: Ned Crotty, Duke

NCAA Division I Women
1. Northwestern
2. Maryland
3. North Carolina
4. Penn
5. Duke
6. Georgetown
7. Syracuse
8. Virginia
9. Notre Dame
10. Princeton
11. Vanderbilt
12. Dartmouth
13. Boston University
14. Stanford
15. Loyola
16. Ohio State
17. Towson
18. Cornell
19. James Madison
20. William & Mary
Preseason Player of the Year: Caitlyn McFadden, Maryland

NCAA Division II Men
1. C.W. Post
2. Le Moyne
3. NYIT
4. Merrimack
5. Limestone
6. Mercyhurst
7. Dowling
8. Mars Hill
9. St. Leo
10. Molloy
Preseason Player of the Year: Drew Bezek, Le Moyne

NCAA Division II Women
1. Adelphi
2. Dowling
3. Lock Haven
4. Mercyhurst
5. Stonehill
6. C.W. Post
7. West Chester
8. Merrimack
9. Limestone
10. Gannon
Preseason Player of the Year: Kaitlyn Carter, Adelphi

NCAA Division III Men
1. Cortland
2. Stevenson
3. Gettysburg
4. Haverford
5. Salisbury
6. Denison
7. Roanoke
8. Middlebury
9. Western New England
10. Cabrini
11. Tufts
12. Washington & Lee
13. Wesleyan
14. Ithaca
15. Lynchburg
16. St. Lawrence
17. Nazareth
18. Washington College
19. Geneseo
20. St. John Fisher
Preseason Player of the Year: Steve Kazimer, Stevenson

NCAA Division III Women
1. Franklin & Marshall
2. Salisbury
3. Gettysburg
4. Hamilton
5. TCNJ
6. Middlebury
7. Catholic
8. Tufts
9. Union
10. Colby
11. Babson
12. Williams
13. Cortland
14. Trinity
15. William Smith
16. St. John Fisher
17. Stevens
18. Roanoke
19. Washington & Lee
20. Buffalo
Preseason Player of the Year: Kate Robinson, Catholic

US Lacrosse WDIA
1. Virginia Tech Club
2. UC Santa Barbara
3. Colorado
4. Santa Clara
5. Michigan
6. Florida Club
7. Cal Poly
8. Colorado State
9. Lindenwood
10. UCLA
11. Georgia
12. Texas
13. Central Florida
14. UC-Davis Club
15. Michigan State
16. BYU
17. Maryland Club
18. Minnesota
19. Pittsburgh
20t. Boston College Club
20t. Virginia Club
Preseason Player of the Year: Krista Shaw, Santa Clara

MCLA Division I
1. Michigan
2. BYU
3. Chapman
4. Simon Fraser
5. Arizona State
6. Florida State
7. Minnesota-Duluth
8. Colorado
9. Colorado State
10. Sonoma State
11. UC Santa Barbara
12. Virginia Tech
13. Boston College
14. Cal Poly
15. Lindenwood
16. Oregon
17. Florida
18. Wisconsin
19. Michigan State
20. Texas
Preseason Player of the Year: Elliot Grow, BYU

MCLA Division II
1. St. Thomas
2. Dayton
3. Davenport
4. Grand Valley State
5. St. John's
6. Emory
7. Western Oregon
8. Northern Colorado
9. Elon
10. Westminster
11. Missouri State
12. Cal State Fullerton
13. Stonehill
14. Southern Oregon
15. Hope
16. Wheaton
17. Briarcliffe
18. Metro State
19. Creighton
20. Whitman
Preseason Player of the Year: Joe Costello, St. Thomas

NJCAA Men
1. Onondaga
2. Nassau
3. Essex
4. Anne Arundel
5. Monroe
6. Suffolk
7. Hudson Valley
8. Herkimer
9. Catonsville
10. Howard
Preseason Player of the Year: Emmett Printup, Onondaga

NJCAA Women
1. Onondaga
2. Monroe
3. Catonsville
4. Nassau
5. Anne Arundel
6. Jefferson
7. Herkimer
8. Harford
9. Broome
10. Erie
Preseason Player of the Year: Lauren Welch, Onondaga
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Re: Lacrosse Magazine Preseason Rankings for 2010

New postby Man/ball on Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:27 pm

I think Haverford at #4 is way too high, sitting at #7-12 seems more like it. I just can't look at their roster and believe that they are better then Salisbury or Roanoke. Its only a preseason ranking which I know doesn't mean much, and the games in the spring are the true measure. Would love to hear some reasoning to the pick?
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Re: Lacrosse Magazine Preseason Rankings for 2010

New postby groundballs18 on Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:24 pm

Most Surprising: No. 4 Haverford
The Black Squirrels are undoubtedly talented and are coming off a strong season where they advanced to the NCAA quarterfinals, but they also lost Mike Murphy, the architect of their recent success, making No. 4 probably a bit ambitious. This is no slam on Colin Bathory, who takes over at Haverford, as Bathory is the best candidate to retain continuity, but there will still be a transition period that could take its toll.

This comment is from lax magazine's website.
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Re: Lacrosse Magazine Preseason Rankings for 2010

New postby GBHog on Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:40 pm

groundballs18 wrote:Most Surprising: No. 4 Haverford
The Black Squirrels are undoubtedly talented and are coming off a strong season where they advanced to the NCAA quarterfinals, but they also lost Mike Murphy, the architect of their recent success, making No. 4 probably a bit ambitious. This is no slam on Colin Bathory, who takes over at Haverford, as Bathory is the best candidate to retain continuity, but there will still be a transition period that could take its toll.

This comment is from lax magazine's website.


They lost Jamie Steele, too. They are ranked way too high, IMHO.
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Re: Lacrosse Magazine Preseason Rankings for 2010

New postby Clutch on Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:07 pm

Here are LM's predicitons for the tournament:

NCAA Division III Men's Tournament
First Round - Wednesday, May 12, 2010

Nazareth d. Castleton St., 18-5
Union d. RIT, 13-11
Tufts d. Springfield, 8-6
Denison d. Ohio Wesleyan, 15-9
Lycoming d. Colorado College, 12-11 (ot)
Eastern Conn. d. Kean, 12-7

Second Round - Saturday, May 15, 2010
Bowdoin d. Ithaca, 9-8
Washington & Lee d. Cabrini, 14-9
WNEC d. Nazareth, 11-10
Middlebury d. Union, 15-5
Cortland d. Tufts, 8-5
Stevenson d. Denison, 16-11
Haverford d. Lycoming, 14-6
Salisbury d. Eastern Conn., 13-8

Quarterfinals - Wednesday, May 19, 2010
WNEC d. Bowdoin, 11-7
Cortland d. Middlebury, 9-8
Salisbury d. Washington & Lee, 15-6
Haverford d. Stevenson, 14-13 (ot)

Semifinals - Sunday, May 23, 2010
Salisbury d. Haverford, 12-8
WNEC d. Cortland, 9-8 (ot)

Finals - Sunday, May 30, 2010
Salisbury d. WNEC, 14-9

Thoughts?
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Re: Lacrosse Magazine Preseason Rankings for 2010

New postby youngred on Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:00 pm

GBHog wrote:
groundballs18 wrote:Most Surprising: No. 4 Haverford
The Black Squirrels are undoubtedly talented and are coming off a strong season where they advanced to the NCAA quarterfinals, but they also lost Mike Murphy, the architect of their recent success, making No. 4 probably a bit ambitious. This is no slam on Colin Bathory, who takes over at Haverford, as Bathory is the best candidate to retain continuity, but there will still be a transition period that could take its toll.

This comment is from lax magazine's website.


They lost Jamie Steele, too. They are ranked way too high, IMHO.


Clearly I'm a Haverford supporter, but I'm also clearly smarter than most of you out there. Find one team that had the kind of success that Haveford had last year that returns EVERYONE in '10, some body give it to me. Bueller? Roanoke? Forget it. Salisbury, I can see it but show me why not Haverford. G'burg? At this point in the game, even stewlaxhomer could not rationalize the Bullets being better than the Squirrels unless it has to do with the Bible. Even D-III can't dispute what they return, try it. I'm a homer, and I have to take issue with the lack of intestinal fortitude that Haverford displayed at the end of last season, but the talent is there if they can back it up. Not a team out there that's any better on paper, besides Cortland -- find one.

Show me, and back it up. Can't be done..............
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Re: Lacrosse Magazine Preseason Rankings for 2010

New postby corkscrew on Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:07 pm

There are several teams that return more than haverford. Just because every player returns does not mean they have better talent than:
Salisbury
Stevenson
Roanoke
Western New England
and of course, Cortland

It is ok to be a fan but come on. Last year, in Haverfords best year ever, they won 6 1 goal games! Pretty impressive but one bad bounce or goalie save and they lose at least some of these games! The 1 goal wins they had were against:

fdu florham
st. lawrence
muhlenberg
f&m
mcdaniel (2 times)

Only one of these teams was ranked in the top 20!!
Again great record last year but seriously, not really blowing out these teams that a #4 team SHOULD blow out!

Not to mention one thing you forgot. They did not lose any starters but they lost their head coach! I would not understate this.

They do not deserve #4 preseason ranking and they will not end up in top 4 at the end of the season.
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Re: Lacrosse Magazine Preseason Rankings for 2010

New postby Swank_Lax on Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:25 pm

Middlebury over Tufts is a joke and neither team belongs in the top 10...
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Re: Lacrosse Magazine Preseason Rankings for 2010

New postby youngred on Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:26 am

corkscrew wrote:There are several teams that return more than haverford. Just because every player returns does not mean they have better talent than:
Salisbury
Stevenson
Roanoke
Western New England
and of course, Cortland

It is ok to be a fan but come on. Last year, in Haverfords best year ever, they won 6 1 goal games! Pretty impressive but one bad bounce or goalie save and they lose at least some of these games! The 1 goal wins they had were against:

fdu florham
st. lawrence
muhlenberg
f&m
mcdaniel (2 times)

Only one of these teams was ranked in the top 20!!
Again great record last year but seriously, not really blowing out these teams that a #4 team SHOULD blow out!

Not to mention one thing you forgot. They did not lose any starters but they lost their head coach! I would not understate this.

They do not deserve #4 preseason ranking and they will not end up in top 4 at the end of the season.


C-screw-

You could make a case for Sals, Stevenson and certainly Cortland, but Roanoke and WNEC? Nice try, but out of the realm of reality. Just bringing up names doesn't get it done, support your case and then I'll listen. The one goal win card is as lame as they come and as someone who's used some lame rationalizations to support my opinions I know lame when I see it. Murphy leaving is not as devastating as some would like to think either, there may in fact be far less pressure on them this year. Cork your seriously selling Haverford short and I'm guessing you really don't have a frame of reference other than reputation. Show me.
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Re: Lacrosse Magazine Preseason Rankings for 2010

New postby bleet on Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:54 am

Interesting that Lacrosse Magazine has Gettysburg #3 preseason and yet not making the tournament. (Not that either list really means anything.) But to Youngred's point, Haverford does have the horses but the question remains whether they can win the big games. That's clearly the next step for the program.
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Re: Lacrosse Magazine Preseason Rankings for 2010

New postby Man/ball on Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:04 am

Haverford's first game vs Cabrini should give us a better barometer of their potential. Cabrini graduated a lot from the looks of last years roster, but still looks as if they could be dangerous for the Squirrels. The last couple of years Cabrini has has beaten their Mainline rivals, is this the year that it changes.
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Re: Lacrosse Magazine Preseason Rankings for 2010

New postby corkscrew on Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:22 am

ok, here is the comparision

Roanoke record in 2009 - 17-2 Roanoke NCAA - lost 2nd round Goals for - 18.8 Goals Against 10.2 in 09
Haverford record in 09 - 13-4 Haverford NCAA - lost 1st round Goals for - 9.8 Goals Against 8.2 in 09

Roanoke returning top points on attack:
March 68 pts
Quinton 67 pts
Keating 44 points

Total 179 pts return on attack

Haverford returning top points on Attack
Hjelm 58
Fleishacker 48 pts
Monaghan 33 pts

Total 138 points return on attack

Roanoke returning top points on midfield
Foley 42 points
Keely 36 points
Tuma 31 points
Furdock 28 points

Total 137 pts return on midfield

Haverford returning top points on midfield
Gregory 34 points
Cohen 23 points
Kim 20 pts
Leeds 15 pts

Total 92 pts return on midfield

Defense returning for Roanoke:
Steve Simmonms - 2nd Team All American in 09
Sam Love - 3rd Team All American in 09
Alex Burkhead - 2 year starter

Defense returning for Haverford:
I don't really know their defense but I don't think they have 2 All Americans back.

Goalie for Roanoke:
Jake Dorsey - 3 year starter .537 save pct in 09

Goalie for Haverford:
Joe Banno - 1 year starter .586 save pct in 09

Faceoff men for Roanoke
Greg Khanzadian
Justin Tuma
Both in high 60% faceoff, both took almost same amount of faceoffs

Faceoff men for Haverford
Don't know their faceoff men but I bet they would have trouble with Roanoke's tandem.

There are the facts and I believe your myth is busted.
p.s. if you go deeper in the depth charts at attack and midfield, it gets even worse for Haverford.
Emotionally, you can say whatever you want but when you put the statistics on paper, the argument is clear.
Roanoke returns more than Haverford in 2010.
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Re: Lacrosse Magazine Preseason Rankings for 2010

New postby upstater on Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:34 am

Underestimating the loss of Murphy is a mistake. Haverford has a solid group of players, don't get me wrong. They have talent and are clearly one of the top 15 teams in DIII. However, they just lost one of the two or three strongest up and coming coaches to DI. You have to say that most if not all of there success over the last few years is due to Murphy. He is a product of DI lacrosse, played DI and until coming to Hford, never spent a day in DIII. They replaced him with a good guy and a solid coach according to all on this board ( I don't know much about him, other than where he has been). However if Mike Murphy is an 8 or 9 as a college coach (DIII tournament experience, a ton of DI big game experience, and plenty of DIII big game experience) Colin Bathory is a 2 or 3. I am not saying Bathory can't BECOME a great coach. It will just take time.

And to piggyback on the multiple one goal wins last year. Point to one thing as the deciding factor in ONE goal games. COACHING.

Haverford will be hard pressed to be ranked #4 at the end of this season due to the loss of it's most valuable commodity, their head coach.
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Re: Lacrosse Magazine Preseason Rankings for 2010

New postby youngred on Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:50 am

corkscrew wrote:ok, here is the comparision

Roanoke record in 2009 - 17-2 Roanoke NCAA - lost 2nd round Goals for - 18.8 Goals Against 10.2 in 09
Haverford record in 09 - 13-4 Haverford NCAA - lost 1st round Goals for - 9.8 Goals Against 8.2 in 09

Roanoke returning top points on attack:
March 68 pts
Quinton 67 pts
Keating 44 points

Total 179 pts return on attack

Haverford returning top points on Attack
Hjelm 58
Fleishacker 48 pts
Monaghan 33 pts

Total 138 points return on attack

Roanoke returning top points on midfield
Foley 42 points
Keely 36 points
Tuma 31 points
Furdock 28 points

Total 137 pts return on midfield

Haverford returning top points on midfield
Gregory 34 points
Cohen 23 points
Kim 20 pts
Leeds 15 pts

Total 92 pts return on midfield

Defense returning for Roanoke:
Steve Simmonms - 2nd Team All American in 09
Sam Love - 3rd Team All American in 09
Alex Burkhead - 2 year starter

Defense returning for Haverford:
I don't really know their defense but I don't think they have 2 All Americans back.

Goalie for Roanoke:
Jake Dorsey - 3 year starter .537 save pct in 09

Goalie for Haverford:
Joe Banno - 1 year starter .586 save pct in 09

Faceoff men for Roanoke
Greg Khanzadian
Justin Tuma
Both in high 60% faceoff, both took almost same amount of faceoffs

Faceoff men for Haverford
Don't know their faceoff men but I bet they would have trouble with Roanoke's tandem.

There are the facts and I believe your myth is busted.
p.s. if you go deeper in the depth charts at attack and midfield, it gets even worse for Haverford.
Emotionally, you can say whatever you want but when you put the statistics on paper, the argument is clear.
Roanoke returns more than Haverford in 2010.


Myth busted? You tell me what they return but not what they lose. No problem replacing Thomas and Carlson I guess. Give me a break, all your numbers are racked up against the little sisters of the poor and they lose in the first round to a team they're supposed to beat. I think it's safe to say that conference play is a tad stiffer in the Centennial. Anyway you slice it, Roanoke comes back in 2010 weaker than in 2009. I guess when you surveyed WNEC's stat sheets you couldn't rationalize that argument. As to the coach, just look to Denison, I think your familiar with them...
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Re: Lacrosse Magazine Preseason Rankings for 2010

New postby zarching on Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:09 am

"Clearly I'm a Haverford supporter, but I'm also clearly smarter than most of you out there."


WHY I LOVE READING YOUNGRED!!!!! :lol:
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Re: Lacrosse Magazine Preseason Rankings for 2010

New postby D-III on Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:31 am

youngred wrote:
corkscrew wrote:You could make a case for Sals, Stevenson and certainly Cortland, but Roanoke and WNEC? Nice try, but out of the realm of reality. Just bringing up names doesn't get it done, support your case and then I'll listen. The one goal win card is as lame as they come and as someone who's used some lame rationalizations to support my opinions I know lame when I see it. Murphy leaving is not as devastating as some would like to think either, there may in fact be far less pressure on them this year. Cork your seriously selling Haverford short and I'm guessing you really don't have a frame of reference other than reputation. Show me.


If the argument is who brings back the most on paper, then clearly Haverford is near the top.

But if you want a case for WNEC (a team you seem to be underestimating):

1. They were better than Haverford last year, and in May, they were probably the second best team in the country;

2. They graduate 3 top players in Pabis (top close), Sovie (top clutch player) and Toomy (solid LSM but they were deep there) and few solid contributors (Kukis, Damboise). Other than that, most of the key pieces return;

3. They return the best goalie in the country (this can't be overstated);

4. They get back O'Keefe who was their best attackman in 2008 (29g, 24a) and missed last season;

5. They return their second best attackman (Santye) and top midfielder from '09 (Jez), add O'Keefe back in the mix and 5 other guys with 15 pts or more, the O won't miss a beat;

6. Pabis is the biggest loss, he was their go to shut down pole, but they return 2 All-League close defenders, and their face-off man. Not to mention Knowlton in goal, so the D will solidify quickly and probably be better in '10. Not to mention WNEC has a stable coaching staff, and runs a difficult system to match and always seems to absorb losses.

On a neutral field in '10, you really like Haverford over WNEC?

And teams like Gettysburg might not return as much on paper, but they return top talent and we know they were deep. The question is, did they really fall enough to make up for the obvious differences in May between them and some other teams like Haverford/Stevenson?
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Re: Lacrosse Magazine Preseason Rankings for 2010

New postby youngred on Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:34 am

zarching wrote:"Clearly I'm a Haverford supporter, but I'm also clearly smarter than most of you out there."


WHY I LOVE READING YOUNGRED!!!!! :lol:


That was for you Zarch, I'm glad you picked up on it. You know what a burden it is........Image
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Re: Lacrosse Magazine Preseason Rankings for 2010

New postby youngred on Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:45 am

D-III wrote:
youngred wrote:
corkscrew wrote:You could make a case for Sals, Stevenson and certainly Cortland, but Roanoke and WNEC? Nice try, but out of the realm of reality. Just bringing up names doesn't get it done, support your case and then I'll listen. The one goal win card is as lame as they come and as someone who's used some lame rationalizations to support my opinions I know lame when I see it. Murphy leaving is not as devastating as some would like to think either, there may in fact be far less pressure on them this year. Cork your seriously selling Haverford short and I'm guessing you really don't have a frame of reference other than reputation. Show me.


If the argument is who brings back the most on paper, then clearly Haverford is near the top.

But if you want a case for WNEC (a team you seem to be underestimating):

1. They were better than Haverford last year, and in May, they were probably the second best team in the country;

2. They graduate 3 top players in Pabis (top close), Sovie (top clutch player) and Toomy (solid LSM but they were deep there) and few solid contributors (Kukis, Damboise). Other than that, most of the key pieces return;

3. They return the best goalie in the country (this can't be overstated);

4. They get back O'Keefe who was their best attackman in 2008 (29g, 24a) and missed last season;

5. They return their second best attackman (Santye) and top midfielder from '09 (Jez), add O'Keefe back in the mix and 5 other guys with 15 pts or more, the O won't miss a beat;

6. Pabis is the biggest loss, he was their go to shut down pole, but they return 2 All-League close defenders, and their face-off man. Not to mention Knowlton in goal, so the D will solidify quickly and probably be better in '10. Not to mention WNEC has a stable coaching staff, and runs a difficult system to match and always seems to absorb losses.

On a neutral field in '10, you really like Haverford over WNEC?

And teams like Gettysburg might not return as much on paper, but they return top talent and we know they were deep. The question is, did they really fall enough to make up for the obvious differences in May between them and some other teams like Haverford/Stevenson?


Can't argue with a thing but you've pointed out BIG losses to graduation. That's undisputable ( I could be wrong but I thought Santye was a senior in '09). Unfortunately, unless both squads get to the finals we won't see them play, and even I don't see that happening. Like I said, don't sell the Squirrels short, they're still young and 1 year wiser. If they had a higher profile, all you posters would be on the band wagon. That's the way it is for the new kid on the block. Don't forget that this team beat the Bullets last year and they bring everyone back, and I mean everyone. G'burg, who admittedly always just reloads, lost some amazing talent to graduation in Kehoe, Peary, O'Donnell and Pucci...........
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Re: Lacrosse Magazine Preseason Rankings for 2010

New postby D-III on Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:04 pm

youngred wrote:Can't argue with a thing but you've pointed out BIG losses to graduation. That's undisputable ( I could be wrong but I thought Santye was a senior in '09). Unfortunately, unless both squads get to the finals we won't see them play, and even I don't see that happening. Like I said, don't sell the Squirrels short, they're still young and 1 year wiser. If they had a higher profile, all you posters would be on the band wagon. That's the way it is for the new kid on the block. Don't forget that this team beat the Bullets last year and they bring everyone back, and I mean everyone. G'burg, who admittedly always just reloads, lost some amazing talent to graduation in Kehoe, Peary, O'Donnell and Pucci...........


I won't sell Haverford short, they will be high on my preseason list, but behind WNEC and Gettysburg which I think is justifiable.

Santye was definitely only a junior and will be back in '10.
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Re: Lacrosse Magazine Preseason Rankings for 2010

New postby richard on Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:32 pm

Off the top of my head I could see Haverford at #6. They will need help on offense to stay there or to get any higher. We will see.
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