JUCO 2011

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Re: JUCO 2011

New postby goalielax10 on Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:06 pm

Situation wrote:Herk will be lucky if they win the conference let alone region 3. They haven't come within 15 goals of OCC in two years.



Agreed. H.V.C.C. has won the (Mountain Valley) "conference" 2 out of the last 3 years. But who knows, the new head coach maybe bringing a different energy to the program. As for the O.C.C. thing; it wasnt too long ago (2008) where Herkimer upset the Lazers during the regular season (5 goal victory) then went on and lost to them in the region 3 championship by 6 goals.

2009 22-6 loss to OCC regular season; 18-7 Loss in Region 3 championship

2010 33-5 loss to OCC regular season; 28-7 Loss in Region 3 semifinals

It has been less than 2 years since the Generals have came within 15 goals of the Lazers; the other 3 scores just make it (and 2008 for that matter) seem a distant memory.

Any upcoming scrimmages for O.C.C., Herk, Essex, A.A.C.C, Monroe, etc?
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Re: JUCO 2011

New postby novacano on Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:55 pm

thatsmell wrote:
JMLax wrote:It seems like OCC is going to be real nasty again and should be the region 3 champ. The two on LI will battle. Region XX seems to be open. Essex is the early favorite but Howard, CCBC, and AAC always compete.
Question, I pose today to the JUCO faithful- How do you think NOVA(aka. N VA CC) will fair this season? While I believe that they are still in a "entry/probationary phase" and not eligible for playoffs, are they capable of winning some games this year vs region XX's best?


I could be wrong, but I don't think so. At least not this year.

For even some of the best coaches who have recently built or turned programs around it took them a couple years to get the ball rolling.
Wilbur at Onondaga and Burke at Howard (now Essex) come to mind.

Unless NOVAs doing some crazy recruiting- digging up D1 transfers and HS AAs,
Essex, Howard and AACC are probably too strong for a new program.


Word has it that NOVA beat D3 Shenandoah University in a scrimmage today. I didnt see the game myself just heard about it from a couple friends. I know its just a scrimmage but maybe they will be better than some people think.
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Re: JUCO 2011

New postby thatsmell on Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:45 pm

Without being the "Debbie Downer" lets just say Shenandoah isn't the strongest D3 program.
However, looking at the positives, it's still impressive given that NOVA's program is so new.
And as a juco, It's always nice to beat a four year school that should have more experienced and older players!

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Re: JUCO 2011

New postby Misana on Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:23 pm

Bring back Wehrum !!!!!!!!

When I was at Herk......we beat OCC by 15 goals..........now they are beating Herkimer by 15 goals.........

it's gotta be the coahing & recruiting......

We need Wehrum back !!!
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Re: JUCO 2011

New postby thatsmell on Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:10 pm

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Re: JUCO 2011

New postby thatsmell on Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:10 am

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Re: JUCO 2011

New postby 7up on Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:39 pm

Watch out for Howard CC to keep there run going the rest of the season. Young team, great coaching staff.

Good to see them winning again.
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Re: JUCO 2011

New postby thatsmell on Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:38 pm

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Re: JUCO 2011

New postby cougars21 on Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:17 pm

2 straight weeks that Herkimer is not in the top 10 of juco. Hard to imagine!!
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Re: JUCO 2011

New postby Otis Gudlyfe on Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:08 pm

OCC looking pretty tough so far....7-0 including a 21-10 win over Nassau.
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Re: JUCO 2011

New postby thatsmell on Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:52 am

Some big games this weekend with potential final four implications and Region XX seedings:

Essex @ Nassua

Harford @ Howard
Catonsville @ AACC
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Re: JUCO 2011

New postby thatsmell on Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:00 pm

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Re: JUCO 2011

New postby al6000 on Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:11 am

nassau beats essex. great win by nassau. hate to say it but it looks like karma came back to bite essex. maybe theyll take there starters out when up 20 goals from now on and cut down on the showboating!
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Re: JUCO 2011

New postby WrapCheck99 on Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:58 am

speaking of karma. anyone else think this score is absurd?
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Re: JUCO 2011

New postby Salo77 on Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:59 pm

Good win by Nassau...congrats boys.
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Re: JUCO 2011

New postby novalax on Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:42 pm

Not sure what you are talking about Al6000. Maybe a disgruntled fan of one of the "blown out" teams? Every time I've seen Essex play they have been up big at the half and didn't score much in the 2nd at all. If you look at their stats, their back-ups all have alot of points in those blowouts games. If anything, the games I've seen they should be congratulated for not running the score up like some of the other JUCO programs. Congrats to nassau on a great win.
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Re: JUCO 2011

New postby al6000 on Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:37 am

behind the back passes, slappin hands with kids on the sidelines (while on the field)? leaving your starters inti ll the 3rd quarter while up by twenty goals? the game i watched the "backups" didn come in till 5 minutes into the 4th quarter. i dont know if your from nova or what but you obviously arent watching the same games i am. i was surprised by burke thats all im saying.
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Re: JUCO 2011

New postby pennlaxdad on Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:39 am

Al, I think you are completely off base. What game, specifically, are you talking about? I haven't seen all their games, but I've seen some of the recent one's, and both games I saw they dialed it back as much as possible in the 2nd half. You are upset about behind the back passes and high fives? Wow, just wow. I looked at their stats like someone above said and it's pretty obvious their starters don't have nearly the amount of points in blowout games as some other teams.
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Re: JUCO 2011

New postby Cheeks on Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:09 pm

It doesn't appear there will be a LAGR for this game. Can anyone post updates to this forum if they're at the game? Maybe a final score if possible.

http://www.njcaa.org/sports_stats.cfm?s ... imeout=500

Also, Essex has had lop sided wins, but it doesn't seem like they're using their 'top-talent' to inflate game scores or stats. The link above has this season stats.

This season, each team has this many scorers in the top 25.

OCC: has 5
Howard: has 4
Genesee: has 3
Mercyhurst NE: has 3
Monroe: has 2
Finger Lakes: has 2
Essex: has 2

Essex might score a lot during games, but their third top scorer is 42nd out of the top 50. Hopefully their backups guys can score a lot today or Howard will be a larger challenge than Essex thinks.
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Re: JUCO 2011

New postby thatsmell on Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:43 pm

Catonsville 12 Harford 9 (Final)
I drove past Essex from the beltway tonight and saw 22-8 on the scoreboard with about 6 minutes left in the fourth.

BTW, In general the MD juco athletic staffs are thin and I've found that many update the MDjuco website before they get tot he NJCAA.org site.

Try www.MDjuco.org for (a little) more in depth stats for the MD kids.

But also as a FYI, team records are usually up to date, but the stats may be behind for some kids if a team accidentally skipped submitting for a week.
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